What happens if I subscribe to a system and it does not
produce any runners?
Subscribers are refunded their subscription fee ($5) for any
system that does not produce any runners in a given week.
What is the system builder's share of the subscription
The subscription fees are divided evenly between Punting Form
and the system builder. So the builder receives $2.50 per week for
Do I have to pay to subscribe to my own
How will I be notified when there is a runner for a
system to which I'm subscribed?
Notification emails are sent out at around 4am each day. In the
event that there is a system hit caused by a scratching or jockey
change, an email will be sent alerting you to that fact. This email
should be received within 10 minutes of the scratching/change being
made official. It is possible that this notification may not be
received if the change occurs less than 10 minutes before the race.
You can also view all your upcoming runners by going to the Systems
Dashboard (/account/systems-dashboard/) and selecting the
Upcoming Runners tab.
I can see a horse in the system's history that I was not
notified about. Why didn't a receive a notification?
It's possible that the horse in question only met the system's
criteria due to a late scratching or jockey change. If this
occurred within 10 minutes of the start of the race, there may not
have been time for the system to be reprocessed and a notification
sent out. Also, as the notification emails are sent out in the
early hours of each morning, you will not get an email for a system
to which you have just subscribed until the next day. If you have
just subscribed to a new system, you should check the Upcoming
Runners tab on the Systems Dashboard for that day's runners.
I received a notification for a horse, but that horse
does not appear in the system's history. What
Some systems have qualifiers that must be manually checked
before a horse is considered to have met the criteria. Examples of
this are track condition and starting price. Subscribers to a
system such as this will be notified about runners that meet all of
the other criteria and then must check the track condition and/or
starting price to see if the horse qualifies. If the track
condition or starting price do not meet the requirements of the
system, it is not considered to be a "hit" and the horse will not
appear in the system's history.
How can I determine whether a horse meets the manual
qualifiers before placing a bet?
If a system has manual qualifiers that need to be checked, an
exclamation point will appear next to the race code. Hover your
mouse over it to view the criteria that need to be met.
Track Condition: Systems that depend on track condition can
be easily checked by visiting the latest form page for the race in
and seeing if the current track condition meets the criteria for
the system. Track condition can be upgraded or downgraded during
the day, so it is possible that a runner's eligibility will
Price: When a system requires a runner to be within a
certain price range, it is sometimes impossible to be sure that the
horse is going to qualify right up until the start of the race. In
these cases, you may need to exercise your own judgement to
determine whether a horse is going to qualify.
Jockey: Sometimes a system features jockey criteria but a
rider has not yet been named for the horse. In these cases, you
will need to check that the jockey meets the criteria specified by
the system. This is usually just a matter of checking their win
and/or place strike rates but could involve checking if the jockey
is an apprentice or has a history with the horse.
How are the final prices determined for the system
We take the highest out of the official on course, NSW TAB
and VIC TAB starting prices.
How do you determine which horse was the favourite if
the bookmakers disagree?
As stated above, we take the highest price for each runner
from the official on course starting price, NSW
TAB and VIC TAB. The favourite is considered to be whichever horse
has the lowest odds once we have determined this price.
e.g. Three different horses were considered favourites by three
different bookmakers. We take the highest price offered for each
horse and find that Horse A's highest price was $3.50, Horse B's
highest price was $3.70 and Horse C's highest price was $3.20.
Horse C would be considered the favourite.
When are the Upcoming Runners updated?
Usually before 4am each morning when the email notifications are
If I check my Upcoming Runners in the morning, are they
going to change before race time?
Only if there are changes due to scratchings or jockey
Where do you get your Pre Post prices?
They are from AAP.
How are the Price Ranks determined?
Prior to the race the price ranks are based on Pre Post
price. After the race, the price rank of reported runners are
based on the official on course starting price. It is difficult to
get selections 100% correct for systems with price criteria.
This approach was taken after much consultation with our users and
is the consensus opinion.